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            <title>[MGNLEE-631] Consolidate past investigations related to recurring memory issues relative to the ranker</title>
                <link>https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/browse/MGNLEE-631</link>
                <project id="10051" key="MGNLEE">Magnolia DX Core</project>
                    <description>&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/images/icons/emoticons/check.png&quot; height=&quot;16&quot; width=&quot;16&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt; Consolidate past/recent investigations&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Conduct proper benchmarking, in order to have a final and proper statement about memory issues linked to the usage of periscope-ranker.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Now, to move forward, I propose to benchmark this properly, in similar spirit as&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https://wiki.magnolia-cms.com/display/SRE/2020-12-23+SRE-1805+Benchmark+JVM+options&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Duy&apos;s benchmarks re: JVM/GC options&lt;/a&gt;&#160;lately, or Maxime&apos;s past efforts &lt;a href=&quot;https://wiki.magnolia-cms.com/display/DEV/Running+Performance+Load+Tests&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Running Performance Load Tests&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define a clear activity scenario, likely triggering few to many find-bar searches, and document the target setup specifications (e.g. local docker with low-memory setup, cloud environment).&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define which setups we put under test, proposing 1. enabled-no-flags, 2. enabled-with-flags, 3. disabled, 4. excluded.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define which metrics we&apos;re interested in: likely jvm heap + non-heap or overall committed memory, others?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Produce charts for each setup for the activity scenario, be it via Datadog (cloud), or ad-hoc tooling / local grafana setup.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Consider automation, whether with Test Framework, or crafting a mini-API in front of periscope if that helps for load-testing tools (instead of scripting the infamous Vaadin UIDL calls).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Let&apos;s use this as a guinea pig example to establish a proper benchmarking methodology, so the experience is profitable. We will need to establish such tests instead of discovering impact of changes (be it from core/jvm setup/other) in production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Expected outcome: clear statement from Product development: Keep/Patch/Disable/Remove, and aligned decision on Core/Cloud.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <summary>Consolidate past investigations related to recurring memory issues relative to the ranker</summary>
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                                    <reporter username="mgeljic">Mika&#235;l Gelji&#263;</reporter>
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                <created>Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:10:03 +0100</created>
                <updated>Wed, 4 May 2022 14:04:37 +0200</updated>
                            <resolved>Wed, 4 May 2022 14:04:37 +0200</resolved>
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                            <comment id="241542" author="ejervidalo" created="Thu, 26 Nov 2020 10:51:46 +0100"  >&lt;p&gt;I was asked to collect all the information we have collected. It&apos;s been so many small ad-hoc meetings and discussions, leading up to things like this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://git.magnolia-cms.com/projects/ODC/repos/swissre-webpresence/browse/light-modules/swissre-web/decorations/periscope-core/config.yaml&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://git.magnolia-cms.com/projects/ODC/repos/swissre-webpresence/browse/light-modules/swissre-web/decorations/periscope-core/config.yaml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where we just went into the swissre slack and told them what to apply. And they did.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Minh Nguyen authored  a01a658a3f1 05 Nov 2020&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now here&apos;s the effect of that on the memory metrics, the orange marks a warning on free memory:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;image-wrap&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;a id=&quot;73189_thumb&quot; href=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/attachment/73189/73189_Screenshot+2020-11-26+at+10.43.50.png&quot; title=&quot;Screenshot 2020-11-26 at 10.43.50.png&quot; file-preview-type=&quot;image&quot; file-preview-id=&quot;73189&quot; file-preview-title=&quot;Screenshot 2020-11-26 at 10.43.50.png&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/thumbnail/73189/_thumb_73189.png&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px solid black&quot; role=&quot;presentation&quot;/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And in the broader context:&lt;br/&gt;
 &lt;span class=&quot;image-wrap&quot; style=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;a id=&quot;73190_thumb&quot; href=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/attachment/73190/73190_Screenshot+2020-11-26+at+10.44.57.png&quot; title=&quot;Screenshot 2020-11-26 at 10.44.57.png&quot; file-preview-type=&quot;image&quot; file-preview-id=&quot;73190&quot; file-preview-title=&quot;Screenshot 2020-11-26 at 10.44.57.png&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/thumbnail/73190/_thumb_73190.png&quot; style=&quot;border: 0px solid black&quot; role=&quot;presentation&quot;/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sept 28th&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanh Pham  05:46&lt;br/&gt;
@here: the upgrading Live to 6.2.3 has been finished successfully. I will install 1.41 FE(v707) to Live&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="241565" author="mmichel" created="Thu, 26 Nov 2020 12:15:38 +0100"  >&lt;p&gt;For me it&apos;s obvious that running DL4J without any flag to keep its memory under control will lead to instance crashes, this can be reproduced locally in a Docker container with low memory settings. The situation with currently available flags and the change I contributed to javacpp is described here: &lt;a href=&quot;https://documentation.magnolia-cms.com/display/INCL/_dl4j+performance+issues&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://documentation.magnolia-cms.com/display/INCL/_dl4j+performance+issues&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last I tried, using&#160;&lt;tt&gt;-Dorg.bytedeco.javacpp.maxbytes=10%&lt;/tt&gt;&#160;with either DL4J beta6 + javacpp pinned to 1.5.3 (recommended at the time by Samuel Audet, DL4J maintainer) or DL4J beta7 had the library manage its memory consumption by itself and prevent crashes, at least in my local testing environment.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="247178" author="mgeljic" created="Wed, 20 Jan 2021 15:44:04 +0100"  >&lt;p&gt;Alright, good input, let&apos;s assume this is all we&apos;ll ever collect here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, to move forward, I propose to benchmark this properly, in similar spirit as&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https://wiki.magnolia-cms.com/display/SRE/2020-12-23+SRE-1805+Benchmark+JVM+options&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Duy&apos;s benchmarks re: JVM/GC options&lt;/a&gt;&#160;lately:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define a clear activity scenario, likely triggering few to many find-bar searches, and document the target setup specifications (e.g. local docker with low-memory setup, cloud environment).&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define which setups we put under test, proposing 1. enabled-no-flags, 2. enabled-with-flags, 3. disabled, 4. excluded.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Define which metrics we&apos;re interested in: likely jvm heap + non-heap or overall committed memory, others?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Produce charts for each setup for the activity scenario, be it via Datadog (cloud), or ad-hoc tooling / local grafana setup.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Consider automation, whether with Test Framework, or crafting a mini-API in front of periscope if that helps for load-testing tools (instead of scripting the infamous Vaadin UIDL calls).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Let&apos;s use this as a guinea pig example to establish a proper benchmarking methodology, so the experience is profitable. We will need to establish such tests instead of discovering impact of changes (be it from core/jvm setup/other) in production.&lt;br/&gt;
&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="252323" author="dlopez" created="Fri, 26 Feb 2021 08:56:42 +0100"  >&lt;p&gt;Here a use case from customer who brought some info related to this: &lt;a href=&quot;https://magnolia-cms.slack.com/archives/CDG4DMWRM/p1614325710017100&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://magnolia-cms.slack.com/archives/CDG4DMWRM/p1614325710017100&lt;/a&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="252624" author="mgeljic" created="Mon, 1 Mar 2021 21:53:35 +0100"  >&lt;p&gt;Re: benchmarking setup, see &lt;a href=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=mmichel&quot; class=&quot;user-hover&quot; rel=&quot;mmichel&quot;&gt;mmichel&lt;/a&gt;&apos;s past efforts at &lt;a href=&quot;https://git.magnolia-cms.com/projects/INTERNAL/repos/performance-loadtests/browse&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;https://git.magnolia-cms.com/projects/INTERNAL/repos/performance-loadtests/browse&lt;/a&gt;, as well as high-level wiki page &lt;a href=&quot;https://wiki.magnolia-cms.com/display/DEV/Running+Performance+Load+Tests&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Running Performance Load Tests&lt;/a&gt;, that&apos;s not outdated at all. Also featuring a &lt;tt&gt;FindBarMassSimulation&lt;/tt&gt;. &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/images/icons/emoticons/wink.png&quot; height=&quot;16&quot; width=&quot;16&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rephrasing the ticket description to reflect the setup and scenario definition stage we&apos;re at now.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="305075" author="ldelnevo" created="Wed, 4 May 2022 14:04:37 +0200"  >&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Marked as Obsolete, following the unbundling of the&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https://wiki.magnolia-cms.com/display/WIKI/Periscope+Result+Ranker+module&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Periscope Ranking&lt;/a&gt;&#160;module.&lt;/em&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Further feedback on the Search functionality, its performance, and UI improvements will be taken into consideration by the Magnolia team as part of&lt;/em&gt;&#160;&lt;em&gt;a broader initiative around &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;https://portal.productboard.com/magnolia/1-magnolia-roadmap/tabs/5-upcoming&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;Find relevant content fast within Magnolia&lt;/a&gt;&quot;. Submit your feedback&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https://portal.productboard.com/magnolia/1-magnolia-roadmap/tabs/1-considering/submit-idea&quot; class=&quot;external-link&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;to us&lt;/a&gt;&#160;and we&apos;ll be in touch.&lt;/em&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
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