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            <title>[MTE-31] Dialog filenames should not use &quot;.dialog&quot;</title>
                <link>https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/browse/MTE-31</link>
                <project id="12093" key="MTE">Magnolia Templating Essentials</project>
                    <description>&lt;p&gt;The convention should be&lt;br/&gt;
templatename.yaml&lt;br/&gt;
Not&lt;br/&gt;
templatename.dialog.yaml&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The dot is especially confusing because one references a dialog by its name - not its filename.&lt;br/&gt;
But when the name has the dot in it, this is not so clear. A dash is a normal filename character.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For the reasons presented in the comments - the dialog file name should be the same name as the template name - just in a different directory.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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        <key id="45487">MTE-31</key>
            <summary>Dialog filenames should not use &quot;.dialog&quot;</summary>
                <type id="4" iconUrl="https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/secure/viewavatar?size=xsmall&amp;avatarId=10890&amp;avatarType=issuetype">Improvement</type>
                                            <priority id="6" iconUrl="https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/images/icons/priorities/neutral.gif">Neutral</priority>
                        <status id="6" iconUrl="https://jira.magnolia-cms.com/images/icons/statuses/closed.png" description="The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are not closed can be reopened.">Closed</status>
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                                    <resolution id="1">Fixed</resolution>
                                        <assignee username="ejervidalo">Espen Jervidalo</assignee>
                                    <reporter username="czimmermann">Christopher Zimmermann</reporter>
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                <created>Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:44:26 +0200</created>
                <updated>Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:42:28 +0200</updated>
                            <resolved>Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:56:33 +0200</resolved>
                                                    <fixVersion>0.5</fixVersion>
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                            <comment id="105390" author="pmundt" created="Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:38:28 +0200"  >&lt;p&gt;I would vote against this pattern:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Initial reason for adding the suffix was the idea of having everything related to a component config in one folder (dialog, template and definition) &#8211; we need a way to identify the dialog&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;It adds rendundancy/duplication&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;We should have a consistent form of naming dialogs throughout the system (no dialog so far has dialog in its name)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;I would actually get rid of the &lt;tt&gt;.dialog&lt;/tt&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="105420" author="cringele" created="Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:58:45 +0200"  >&lt;p&gt;I agree on ph&apos;s comment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would vote against bith patterns:&lt;br/&gt;
Leave the dialog away.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As the path alrady indicates what it is.&lt;br/&gt;
Comparable to the registry in jcr config.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also think about the id of a dialog you set in the template def:&lt;br/&gt;
dialog=modulename:something.dialog&lt;br/&gt;
Or&lt;br/&gt;
dialog=modulename:something-dialog&lt;br/&gt;
Makes it redundand and &quot;more complcated&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Usually you want to copy paste:&lt;br/&gt;
Template name can be copy &amp;amp; pasted into the file name of dialog, into yaml file itsef, into id etc.&lt;br/&gt;
Anything you have to add you loose time.&lt;/p&gt;</comment>
                            <comment id="105453" author="czimmermann" created="Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:56:02 +0200"  >&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments, I find them all reasonable and compelling.&lt;br/&gt;
The downsides of both files having the same name: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;when working with files, in most editors if you have both files open in tabs - you will not know which one is which.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Also (depending on the editor) when searching for a dialog or template definition it won&apos;t be as easy to find your target.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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                            <comment id="105465" author="cringele" created="Wed, 3 Jun 2015 09:55:04 +0200"  >&lt;p&gt;I see the downsides you describe, but I think they don&apos;t make up for the other downsides.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The content of the files is quite different, I think with a little bit of practice people see fast if its a template def or a dialog def.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the downsides of having redundancy in the file names stays for the whole project /use of Magnolia, no matter how experienced you are.&lt;br/&gt;
So that will always cost you time in a project, which is out of my view the bigger downside.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And also:&lt;br/&gt;
Don&apos;t overrate the help the word &quot;dialog&quot; would provide in a file name.&lt;br/&gt;
I use exactly this in the very first exercise in the training:&lt;br/&gt;
Template def is called &apos;sampleTemplate&apos;&lt;br/&gt;
Dialog is called &apos;sampleTemplateDialog&apos;&lt;br/&gt;
Script is called &apos;sampleTemplateScript&apos;&lt;br/&gt;
(Explaining them that such a redundancy naming is bad practice)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And you would be surprised how they are still confused what to do where.&lt;br/&gt;
Even when a instruction says clearly: &quot;Go to you &apos;sampleTemplateDialog&apos; dialog configuration located in xxx and add into xxx a field called xxx...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;
Why?&lt;br/&gt;
Because they are beginners and have no clue yet what is what. The word &quot;dialog&apos; is empty for them, a blank sheet.&lt;br/&gt;
So the word &apos;dialog&apos; in the dialogs name doesn&apos;t really help them as much as one could think.&lt;br/&gt;
And as soon as they understand what a dialog is, they know from looking at one that it is one.&lt;/p&gt;
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